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mike duda, senior research analyst is joining me now -- mike dudas senior research analyst is joining me now to talk coal. the industry as a whole has been taken a beating. maybe this cold weather is helping, we will get into that, but why do you like some of these coal stocks for 2013? >> the stocks have had a really difficult time, but the stocks have been bottoming trying to make higher lows and higher highs and starting to discount i believe some better fundamentals in the industry. two major drivers for 2013, one the pricing and direction of natural gas in united states and secondly which could be more important the recovery in china for industrial production steel consumption and that would help. ashley: nat gas was so cheap it was ridiculous and actually killed coal but those prices have come up a little bit now. >> if we get a normal winter that will increase the amount of natural gas consumed, increase the amount of electricity. the winter got off probably slower start than i think most bulls would have liked to have seen, it is picking up as well and i think that will be hel
mike duda, senior research analyst is joining me now -- mike dudas senior research analyst is joining me now to talk coal. the industry as a whole has been taken a beating. maybe this cold weather is helping, we will get into that, but why do you like some of these coal stocks for 2013? >> the stocks have had a really difficult time, but the stocks have been bottoming trying to make higher lows and higher highs and starting to discount i believe some better fundamentals in the industry....
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mike emanuel has been following all of the developments with us tonight. it sounds like there won't be a vote tonight at this point because there's no deal at least on the senate side. >> that's right. senate majority leader harry reid said we should talk to vice president biden and mitch mcconnell. earlier republicans suggested changing the way inflation is calculated on changes like social security read offered this reaction late in the day. >> i was really grass fied to hear republicans taking command by social security set off the table. this should never have been on the table to begin with. there is still significant difference between the two sides negotiations continue. still time left to reach an agreement. >> meanwhile west virginia democrat joe mansion introduced the calm act trying to soften the blow as the country goes off the fiscal cliff. it would maphase in tax hikes or the years and prioritize spending cuts. he says he's frustrated and tried to do something. >> it was crossing the wires it's more than frustration it sounds like desperation
mike emanuel has been following all of the developments with us tonight. it sounds like there won't be a vote tonight at this point because there's no deal at least on the senate side. >> that's right. senate majority leader harry reid said we should talk to vice president biden and mitch mcconnell. earlier republicans suggested changing the way inflation is calculated on changes like social security read offered this reaction late in the day. >> i was really grass fied to hear...
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. >> joining me from capitol hill is mike viqueira. thanks for being here. >> hey. >> you heard congressman cole there, number four house republican, deputy whip. he knows a bit about this. is he just trying to sound sort of positive? what do you take from that on the ground? >> i don't think that tom cole has the constituency, although he's known as a reasoned member and close to john boehner, i don't think he has the stoitsy to follow him to avert this cliff. look, the last minute, as tom cole said, the deals come together at the last minute. the last minute was really before christmas. as a practical matter, that is how these deals come together each of the last three years of the obama administration, on the budget, on deficit, on tax cuts years ago. they came together before christmas. it's hard to see how this works out at this point, to tell you the truth. there is a conference call at 2:30 among house republicans trying to decide what to do. we expect the leadership to let the rank and file know what their plans are. the speake
. >> joining me from capitol hill is mike viqueira. thanks for being here. >> hey. >> you heard congressman cole there, number four house republican, deputy whip. he knows a bit about this. is he just trying to sound sort of positive? what do you take from that on the ground? >> i don't think that tom cole has the constituency, although he's known as a reasoned member and close to john boehner, i don't think he has the stoitsy to follow him to avert this cliff. look, the...
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joining me to talk more, we have peter alexander standing by at the white house as well as nbc's mike viqueira on capitol hill. some verbal smackdown, basically flipping the lights back on and harry reid taking to the floor to eviscerate speaker boehner. >> the sad part is you often seen the floor opened that way. mitch mcconnell being later today. i'm sure we'll hear something later. to hear it two days after christmas and a matter of days before we go through the fiscal cliff, obviously not encouraging. harry reid says time is running hout. he doesn't know if they could go through the legislative hurdles. if they have the votes around here, they can legislate the sky is green and the grass is blue. that's not an issue. what harry reid is really saying is mitch mcconnell, get on board, don't try to filibuster. of course they're talking about a bill that had raise capital on couples making more than $250,000 a year, and do a few other nuts and bolts that are deemed the bare minimum that the president wants to see done before we hit january 1st. i've got to tell you, though, getting ba
joining me to talk more, we have peter alexander standing by at the white house as well as nbc's mike viqueira on capitol hill. some verbal smackdown, basically flipping the lights back on and harry reid taking to the floor to eviscerate speaker boehner. >> the sad part is you often seen the floor opened that way. mitch mcconnell being later today. i'm sure we'll hear something later. to hear it two days after christmas and a matter of days before we go through the fiscal cliff, obviously...
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. >> let's bring in nbc's luke russert and mike viqueira. thanks, guys, for joining me. so, guys, that is about as close to fighting words as we get on the senate floor. >> yeah. >> clearly though, luke, the strategy seems to be to put -- you know, senator reid is trying to put this back on boehner and really make the case that, hey, we in the senate, we've passed something, we could, you know, if the house would get back here, we could pass it right now, avert this cliff, and everybody could go home. that seems to be their strategy. >> and you heard right there harry reid really laying into republicans saying you guys have not been around. we have nobody to negotiate with. you know, negotiating to come to a compromise. a real interesting plan of attack by harry reid. mitch mcconnell came to the senate flor and said we await to hear from the president regarding any plan that he has moving forward but we're not just going to give a blank check over to democrats because we're on the edge of a fiscal cliff. and harry reid coming down and essentially tearing apart mitch mcco
. >> let's bring in nbc's luke russert and mike viqueira. thanks, guys, for joining me. so, guys, that is about as close to fighting words as we get on the senate floor. >> yeah. >> clearly though, luke, the strategy seems to be to put -- you know, senator reid is trying to put this back on boehner and really make the case that, hey, we in the senate, we've passed something, we could, you know, if the house would get back here, we could pass it right now, avert this cliff, and...
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mike tobin has the latest from houston. >> reporter: the latest release includes a phrase continues to improve in association with the former president's condition. the staff around former president bush made an effort to be lighthearted with the releases and optimistic, acknowledging he's pretty sick and he's 88. he's in the intensive care unit for a stubborn fever brought on as a complication with bronchitis that caused him to be hospitalized back toward the end of november. the staff around him is being jewish in terms of information they're giving out in part because he's so beloved that people will overreact if they get information. we do know from the staff he has been conversational with the nursing staff that is around him. if you ever had an opportunity to cover this president, particularly since his term ended, he's a funny guy, a stitch a minute. consistent with his personalty he's cracking jokes with the hospital staff but he's taking it further and singing with the hospital staff. you can interpret that as a good sign all the while taking into consideration they're not in
mike tobin has the latest from houston. >> reporter: the latest release includes a phrase continues to improve in association with the former president's condition. the staff around former president bush made an effort to be lighthearted with the releases and optimistic, acknowledging he's pretty sick and he's 88. he's in the intensive care unit for a stubborn fever brought on as a complication with bronchitis that caused him to be hospitalized back toward the end of november. the staff...
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host: i want to go from mike -- go to mike from the independent line. caller: i would like to say that this fiscal cliff is a charade. it is promoted by the media. it has nothing to do with fixing our economy. the president has had an opportunity to go to the g-7 or the 20 and explain that western civilization is in debt so far that it is never going to get out of it unless we abandon these world trade rules, everybody go home to their own country, and do with the need to do to get back on the even keel with their financing. host: are using the u.s. should pull back from its international commitments and focus more on -- more on home? caller: i would suggest that other western countries do the same thing. the president should have his staff identify the most labour intensive products that we purchased here in the u.s. and stop importing them. he should say, for example, the automotive parts and automobiles -- six months from now, he should say, we're not going to allow any imports. the creek investors -- greedy investors will go to work and start making
host: i want to go from mike -- go to mike from the independent line. caller: i would like to say that this fiscal cliff is a charade. it is promoted by the media. it has nothing to do with fixing our economy. the president has had an opportunity to go to the g-7 or the 20 and explain that western civilization is in debt so far that it is never going to get out of it unless we abandon these world trade rules, everybody go home to their own country, and do with the need to do to get back on the...
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mike, what is the latest you're hearing about a possible vote tonight, maybe not before midnight at this point, but sometime during the night? >> yeah, i don't think it will happen before midnight, just too many procedural hoops to jump through, and they haven't even completed writing the bill. vice president joe biden arrived, met with harry reid briefly, and walked into the second floor and into the caucus room where democrats had gathered. joe biden's mention to pitch this deal, to the caucus, one mention, if they're going to bring it up tonight. we talked about the senate and how slow it moves. it can move very fast, when they have unanimous consent, in other words, where every senator says it is okay to move forward. that will be the trick. there will be a lot of senators with a lot of things they don't like about this piece of legislation. both on the right and left. they will get this done. one way or another tonight. it will not happen before midnight. as you mention, the house of representatives is not going to do it. so technically, we'll go over the cliff. although tomorrow is
mike, what is the latest you're hearing about a possible vote tonight, maybe not before midnight at this point, but sometime during the night? >> yeah, i don't think it will happen before midnight, just too many procedural hoops to jump through, and they haven't even completed writing the bill. vice president joe biden arrived, met with harry reid briefly, and walked into the second floor and into the caucus room where democrats had gathered. joe biden's mention to pitch this deal, to the...
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. >> reporter: mike dickinson works for noble energy, which is doubling its production in weld county. this oil field stretches from colorado into wyoming. in 2008, it produced 83,000 barrels of oil, yet this year it is expected to reach nearly ten million barrels. how different is the technology that we're seeing here today versus what you were doing out here a couple of years ago? >> it's unrecognizable today compared to what we were doing just two or three years ago. >> reporter: oil companies used to mainly drill vertical wells, hitting one pool of oil. but now they are rapidly converting to horizontal wells up to a mile long and combining them with fracking operations which split open rocks, releasing oil once considered out of reach. and one drilling rigs can now install multiple wells in one location, making it more cost- efficient. a horizontal well produces seven to ten times more oil than a vertical well. >> today, we're not running any vertical rigs, and we're running eight horizontals. >> reporter: so this really is the future of what you're doing out here. >> it is. >> re
. >> reporter: mike dickinson works for noble energy, which is doubling its production in weld county. this oil field stretches from colorado into wyoming. in 2008, it produced 83,000 barrels of oil, yet this year it is expected to reach nearly ten million barrels. how different is the technology that we're seeing here today versus what you were doing out here a couple of years ago? >> it's unrecognizable today compared to what we were doing just two or three years ago. >>...
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. >>> plus, new details about senator mike crapo's arrest for drunk driving. it is just one of the things we thought you should know. look, if you have copd like me, you know it can be hard to breathe, and how that feels. copd includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. spiriva helps control my copd symptoms by keeping my airways open for 24 hours. plus, it reduces copd flare-ups. spiriva is the only once-daily inhaled copd maintenance treatment that does both. spiriva handihaler tiotropium bromide inhalation powder does not replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms. tell your doctor if you have kidney problems, glaucoma, trouble urinating, or an enlarged prostate. these may worsen with spiriva. discuss all medicines you take, even eye drops. stop taking spiriva and seek immediate medical help if your breathing suddenly worsens, your throat or tongue swells, you get hives, vision changes or eye pain, or problems passing urine. other side effects include dry mouth and constipation. nothing can reverse copd. spiriva helps me breathe better. (blowing sound)
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mike did something not only dream of. he loved over 463 hours in space -- he logged over four to 63 hours in space. he fought to keep the johnson space center the home of spaceflight despite the retirement of the space shuttle's and cancellation of the constellation program. been i grow up, i want to t him. bravo, may you and your family always have fair wind and calm seas. i yield back. >> for what purpose does the gentle lady from texas rise. gentle lady is recognized for one minute. >> a share a desire to serve the nation in this pivotal time. it is enormously important that we come together. we can do it in a rationality it takes a simple analysis. simple analysis says a bag of potato chips is a luxury item. if i want to get a higher end cadillac, i will think about it for a couple days. that should be the thought process for the fiscal cliff. pass the bill that will give 99% of americans a tax break. protect those that are unemployed and work. 30 million taxpayers will fall over the cliff. if we have to deal with loo
mike did something not only dream of. he loved over 463 hours in space -- he logged over four to 63 hours in space. he fought to keep the johnson space center the home of spaceflight despite the retirement of the space shuttle's and cancellation of the constellation program. been i grow up, i want to t him. bravo, may you and your family always have fair wind and calm seas. i yield back. >> for what purpose does the gentle lady from texas rise. gentle lady is recognized for one minute....
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mike emanuel on capitol hill. thanks. you are now looking live at the senate floor where a session is underway. the opening prayer there now being carried out asking for are wisdom and guidance for senators as they have a lot of work potentially ahead. shortly we should have is opening remarks from the majority leader, of course, senator are harry reid and then mitch mcconnell also expected. maybe first clues as to whether or not they hammered anything out. they complete the pledge now and then it is back to business. we'll keep you updated with any development there's. we have been asking you today to give us your input on a fiscal cliff. there are some lawmakers who say going over the cliff may actually be a food thing. do you agree or disagree? alex says go over the cliff. it will be painful but it is the only way for this country to right itself. another viewer says it isn't a good thing but a rushed plan is equally bad. we are between a rock and a hard place. keep the tweets coming. tweet us at @ anhqdc or @ shannon
mike emanuel on capitol hill. thanks. you are now looking live at the senate floor where a session is underway. the opening prayer there now being carried out asking for are wisdom and guidance for senators as they have a lot of work potentially ahead. shortly we should have is opening remarks from the majority leader, of course, senator are harry reid and then mitch mcconnell also expected. maybe first clues as to whether or not they hammered anything out. they complete the pledge now and then...
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mike, thanks very much. >> arthel: we're going to the white house where president obama is holding firm to his demand and blaming republicans for the failure to reach a deal. the president also appearing on a political talk show this morning to make his case to the american people. chief white house correspondent ed henry is live at the white house. >> reporter: good to see you. first time the president did a sunday talk show since 2009 since he was pushing healthcare reform trying to sell a fiscal cliff deal. he is was on meet the press. republicans weren't happy with that appearance because he they felt he was blaming them. new development in the last hour or two, vice president biden has come back from delaware. he is now here at the white house. he has had two phone calls with mitch mcconnell. in previous budget battles, joe biden has been the closer on these deals. his coming back from delaware might be a sign they are moving a little closer. that will be something to watch. the whole thing about changing cpi and reining in cost of entitlements, republicans are judging in on that.
mike, thanks very much. >> arthel: we're going to the white house where president obama is holding firm to his demand and blaming republicans for the failure to reach a deal. the president also appearing on a political talk show this morning to make his case to the american people. chief white house correspondent ed henry is live at the white house. >> reporter: good to see you. first time the president did a sunday talk show since 2009 since he was pushing healthcare reform trying...
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hi, mike. >> hi. bret. we hear from the republican senators they are optimistic and hopeful that a vote can happen sometime, perhaps later tonight. senator mitch mcconnell e-mailed and said he thought the deal was done until the white house called to say the sequestered cuts should be turned off. since then, she trying to find a way to bye down months of the cut but says the tax issues shooting forward. >> we will continue to work on finding smarter ways to cut spending. but let's not let that hold up,be protecting americans from the tax hike that will take place. we can do this. we must do this. >> though it is down to the wire. >> it's december the 31. january 1 is tomorrow, 2013. taxes go up. >> frustrated senator john thune says the senate should have acted months ago to keep the u.s. economy going off the fiscal cliff. >> i find it really hard to sit and listen to people come up now and wring their hands and talk about gee whiz. i hope we can get something done on the last day. we put two people togeth
hi, mike. >> hi. bret. we hear from the republican senators they are optimistic and hopeful that a vote can happen sometime, perhaps later tonight. senator mitch mcconnell e-mailed and said he thought the deal was done until the white house called to say the sequestered cuts should be turned off. since then, she trying to find a way to bye down months of the cut but says the tax issues shooting forward. >> we will continue to work on finding smarter ways to cut spending. but let's...
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. >> mike, thank you. on top of those fiscal cliff concerns, the treasury secretary, timothy geithner, warns we're set to hit the debt ceiling new year's eve, the max amount we're allowed to spend. the current limit is $16.4 trillion. he says the obama administration will work to make sure the u.s. does not default on loans right away but the debate will be another drag on the economy. with us, the chief business correspondent for u.s. news and world report, rick newman, and author of rebounders, how winners pivot from setback to success. talk about the debt ceiling for us, first of all, welcome. talk about the debt ceiling and how it affects us. we here horror scenarios about the red -- credit rating. >> one good thing you can say about reaching the debt limit is it's not a surprise. everybody has known this is coming up. the government will continue to function for a couple more months. emergency measures will be used to keep the money flowing, so to speak. this is unrelated to the fiscal cliff, so it's
. >> mike, thank you. on top of those fiscal cliff concerns, the treasury secretary, timothy geithner, warns we're set to hit the debt ceiling new year's eve, the max amount we're allowed to spend. the current limit is $16.4 trillion. he says the obama administration will work to make sure the u.s. does not default on loans right away but the debate will be another drag on the economy. with us, the chief business correspondent for u.s. news and world report, rick newman, and author of...
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mike, let's get started with you. what's happening right now in the senate. i understand there's an update on the chained cpi. >> reporter: they say the darkest hour right before the dawn, melissa. everybody ought to hope that's true, at least if you don't want to see your taxes go up on midnight on monday and tuesday night because everything seems to be at a standstill right now. let's review the bidding. here it is from a republican source here on the republican side of capitol hill. all day yesterday they were trading proposals back and forth. by his count two democratic offers came back to republicans and four came back from republicans to democrats. the last one being at 7:00 last night, and, boom, after that, things pretty much came to a standsti standstill. no offers. republicans say they have not heard from democrats since then. mitch mcconnell, of course, the republican leader here in the senate, has said he has reached out to joe biden, the vice president, and not incidentally the president of the senate in that capacity. he has had a couple of conv
mike, let's get started with you. what's happening right now in the senate. i understand there's an update on the chained cpi. >> reporter: they say the darkest hour right before the dawn, melissa. everybody ought to hope that's true, at least if you don't want to see your taxes go up on midnight on monday and tuesday night because everything seems to be at a standstill right now. let's review the bidding. here it is from a republican source here on the republican side of capitol hill....
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. >> all right, mike viqueira, stand by. we're going to kristen welker at the white house. >> i can tell you that president obama called majority leader reid and also pelosi over at the house, and they both agreed with this deal that we have been discussing throughout the night, this deal that would allow tax cuts to expire on those making $400,000 or more and $450,000 or more for couples, as well as extend unemployment insurance benefits. and it would stave off the sequester for two months through a combination of tax cuts -- or tax hikes i should say, those tax hikes that i just mentioned, as well as spending cuts. so those are the broad parameters of the deal. and again, president obama tonight calling harry reid, nancy pelosi to make sure that they both signed off on this deal, which they have. so now we have the vice president who is just arriving at the hill. he is going to sit down with the democratic caucus, sell this deal to the caucus, answer their questions, answer their concerns. but, again, the broad outlines of
. >> all right, mike viqueira, stand by. we're going to kristen welker at the white house. >> i can tell you that president obama called majority leader reid and also pelosi over at the house, and they both agreed with this deal that we have been discussing throughout the night, this deal that would allow tax cuts to expire on those making $400,000 or more and $450,000 or more for couples, as well as extend unemployment insurance benefits. and it would stave off the sequester for...
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wendy gillette, abc news, new york. >>> mike jing us with a look at the -- mike joining us with a look at the forecast, more rain on the way? >>> in due time we'll get light rain not this morning high clouds to the east from sutro tower in san francisco where dry now live doppler 7 hd spinning tracking the showers, the rain i should say as it is developing over the ocean water right now let's see how far that is, 41 miles from santa rosa, 51 from san francisco, under the returns, very dry air, sprinkles at best lieu the 30s, just updated these the entire peninsula, upper 30s only 40s left, half moon bay 41, oakland 42, san francisco 44. everybody else mid to upper 30s. 33 gilroy. 40 salinas. cool start today, light rain by the afternoon. showers possible tonight by tomorrow afternoon that push of dry air starts to come in and it leaves us dry sunday through tuesday. high pressure to our east, west, system trying to slide down and find the weak spot, along the coast what makes this forecast tricky if that low moves 50 miles closer to the coast that means rain is going to be heavier at t
wendy gillette, abc news, new york. >>> mike jing us with a look at the -- mike joining us with a look at the forecast, more rain on the way? >>> in due time we'll get light rain not this morning high clouds to the east from sutro tower in san francisco where dry now live doppler 7 hd spinning tracking the showers, the rain i should say as it is developing over the ocean water right now let's see how far that is, 41 miles from santa rosa, 51 from san francisco, under the...
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. >> mike ga lanty nomination at 2:00 p.m., two roll call votes on confirmations on william bear, on attorney general, and carol galante, assistant at hud. there will be a recess to allow for caucus meetings. and the majorities meeting will begin at 3:00 today. the chair announce the business of the day. >> under the previous order the leadership time is reserved. under the previous order -- >> that is familiar to you and anybody else who tunes in to c-span, unfortunately for us, at least for now, the senate majority leader has not given us ap update on where things stand. he was doing some business, some typical business setting in place the schedule that they do have. they are going to do other work today, believe it or not. they have nominations to vote on. so we didn't hear from him in any even in any generic sense about where the talks are. we expect to hear from the republican leader in a little bit, though. >> dana, before i let you go to gather up more information, what are we hearing so far? i know sitting in here, i hear both democrats and republicans sounding fairly optimi
. >> mike ga lanty nomination at 2:00 p.m., two roll call votes on confirmations on william bear, on attorney general, and carol galante, assistant at hud. there will be a recess to allow for caucus meetings. and the majorities meeting will begin at 3:00 today. the chair announce the business of the day. >> under the previous order the leadership time is reserved. under the previous order -- >> that is familiar to you and anybody else who tunes in to c-span, unfortunately for...
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. >>> so a not so merry christmas for senator mike. a republican from idaho arrested for dui early this morning, and it is the day before christmas. we all know that. it seems more like black friday in certain malls. we're going to tell you about those deals across the country. [ male announcer ] you've reached the age where you don't back down from a challenge. this is the age of knowing how to make things happen. so, why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? talk to your doctor about viagra. 20 million men already have. ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. side effects include headache, flushing, upset stomach, and abnormal vision. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. stop taking viagra and call your doctor right away if you experience a sudden decrease or loss in vision or hearing. this is the age of taking action. viagra. talk to your doctor. >
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mike emanuel kicks off our fox team coverage live from washington. harry reid said negotiations continue. where do we stand? >> senator reid seemed to be looking ahead to tomorrow's schedule. talks continue but a deal is not implement. another said there's a chance one could be reached tonight. harry reid and mitch mcconnell are the key players. he sounded frustrated after not receiving a counter-offer. a key member of the leadership team offered this update. >> offeringses and discussions between and we remain hopeful that will get a breakthrough. obviously what happened here between the two leaders in the senate had broken down because the senate democrats failed to come forward with a counter offer to the proposal the republicans made last night. hopefully the discussions between the.and senator mcconnell will get us on track. >> republican aides recognize the consequences if it falls apart. everybody gets a tax increase in 48 hours. >> well, it's less than 48 hours now. i'm wonder, are the democrats fighting among themself? >> there's a battle ov
mike emanuel kicks off our fox team coverage live from washington. harry reid said negotiations continue. where do we stand? >> senator reid seemed to be looking ahead to tomorrow's schedule. talks continue but a deal is not implement. another said there's a chance one could be reached tonight. harry reid and mitch mcconnell are the key players. he sounded frustrated after not receiving a counter-offer. a key member of the leadership team offered this update. >> offeringses and...
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we'll start with mike. mike, you have some reason for optimism with some new headlines from the republicans this morning. what is it? >> well, happy new year's eve, mika, and we do. the story line for today will be will vice president biden swoop on to fantasy island and turn it into reality island? and there was some sign that that's going to happen. republicans are embracing the new involvement of vice president biden as an excuse to do things they haven't been willing to do before. so, the way "politico" is describing it is vice president biden is playing good cop to harry reid's bad cop. i'm told by republican aides that leader mcconnell and vice president biden talked by phone until midnight. their aides talked until longer. and what republicans are saying, we needed a dance partner, and vice president biden gives us one. so, we're moving through the stages of grief here. i think we're to acceptance, maybe reality will come next. >> eamon, greg sergeant writes this in "the washington post." i'd love fo
we'll start with mike. mike, you have some reason for optimism with some new headlines from the republicans this morning. what is it? >> well, happy new year's eve, mika, and we do. the story line for today will be will vice president biden swoop on to fantasy island and turn it into reality island? and there was some sign that that's going to happen. republicans are embracing the new involvement of vice president biden as an excuse to do things they haven't been willing to do before. so,...
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i remember the sense of urgency expressed by the then-director of the national intelligence mike mcconnell, the then-c.i.a. director michael hayden, the attorney general at the time, michael mukasey, as they discussed the consequences that we would have to deal with if we continued not to move forward and put this act back in place. the agreement we reached balanced the concerns of those who feared that the national security agency had overreached with the other balance was the ongoing authority that the intelligence community needed to protect the country. that agreement is before us again to be reauthorized for another five years. the fisa amendments act protects individuals in the united states from so-called reverse targeting. it's one of the concerns people had five years ago. this would be a process which in theory could be used to monitor the communications of american citizens under the guise of spying on terrorists. it also continues to ensure that any communication originating in the united states caught in the fisa process is minimized. now, what does that mean? it means it's ha
i remember the sense of urgency expressed by the then-director of the national intelligence mike mcconnell, the then-c.i.a. director michael hayden, the attorney general at the time, michael mukasey, as they discussed the consequences that we would have to deal with if we continued not to move forward and put this act back in place. the agreement we reached balanced the concerns of those who feared that the national security agency had overreached with the other balance was the ongoing...
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anybody, questions on the-- >> yeah, mike, it's beckel. mcconnell stayed out of this thing all along until he comes in at the last minute and i give him credit for trying it. at the last minute he drops in a reevaluation of the cross limit on entitlements which mired up the whole thing. we know full well you can't get that done in a day. why in the world is mcconnell messing with this thing. >> bob, you've probably been part of these high profile negotiations. >> i have. >> and dana mass. it's horse trading. bottom line, he probably wasn't happy with where the tax rate was going and said, well, this is something that would be good for our side. so, can we essentially save some money on the inflation rate in regards to perhaps social security. he says it's not a deal breaker. if they don't want this, we can drop it. and he essentially said, af been waiting 18 hours for a counter proposal from senate majority leader harry reid and so that's when mcconnell went to the bullpen and called the vice-president, his old buddy to see if they could c
anybody, questions on the-- >> yeah, mike, it's beckel. mcconnell stayed out of this thing all along until he comes in at the last minute and i give him credit for trying it. at the last minute he drops in a reevaluation of the cross limit on entitlements which mired up the whole thing. we know full well you can't get that done in a day. why in the world is mcconnell messing with this thing. >> bob, you've probably been part of these high profile negotiations. >> i have....
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mike? >> good evening. coming out o a big white house meeting everybody agrees that the next step should be the senate taking the bipartisan action. so the pressure shifts to senate majority leader harry reid. and what he may be able to strike to get at least some republican support. >> house republicans voted pass the tax cut and automatic cut to defense and domestic program starting in the new year. so they shifted the focus for the need for majority leader harry reid and the senate democrats to do something. >> the way the senate is fon functionm right now, not even bringing the bills upper committee is frustrating to those of us in the house that are doing the work that has to be done. if senate wants to resolution, the senate has to actually pass something on this. we have done our work. senate has to respond. >> challenge is determining what passed the republican-led house and democrat-controlled senate. fiscal conservatives say a smaller stop gap measure to avoid the cliff won't work. >> if we, in fa
mike? >> good evening. coming out o a big white house meeting everybody agrees that the next step should be the senate taking the bipartisan action. so the pressure shifts to senate majority leader harry reid. and what he may be able to strike to get at least some republican support. >> house republicans voted pass the tax cut and automatic cut to defense and domestic program starting in the new year. so they shifted the focus for the need for majority leader harry reid and the...
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forget about what anybody is reading into mike shanahan saying maybe the season is over. we'll go out one at a time. they have taken that mentality. >> i remember rg iii saying that. he said we'll come back and be focused and ready to go. >> he almost said it defiantly. a lot of people might remember tim tebow when he was down in florida. >> you didn't have to bring that in. >> i'm just saying he made the same type of statement and they won the national championship. rg iii was like we are going to win each and every week and they did. i don't think anybody believed it would actually happen. but it has. now, obviously, as good as alfred morris was, the defense to me really stepped forward and the biggest thing here was right after a three and out, the cowboys have a chance to get early points. >> is tony romo color-blind? >> i do want mow what he was doing there. the first of the three picks by the rookie richard crawford, seventh round pick in last year's draft, again making plays. here is romo here, inexplicably here, no pressure, just a terrible throw. wisdom, what do
forget about what anybody is reading into mike shanahan saying maybe the season is over. we'll go out one at a time. they have taken that mentality. >> i remember rg iii saying that. he said we'll come back and be focused and ready to go. >> he almost said it defiantly. a lot of people might remember tim tebow when he was down in florida. >> you didn't have to bring that in. >> i'm just saying he made the same type of statement and they won the national championship. rg...
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mike is joining us from lafayette, louisiana, independent line. caller: good morning. you're talking about the need for special forces, working in conjunction with other nations' forces. are we running the risk of creating a u.n. special forces or creating a new world order special forces group? guest: well, they have many partners about the world now. this is one of the focal points of the new commander's efforts, to pull together regional alliances of special operators to help do some of these projects, which lessens the burden on the u.s. special operations forces who they have been operating at a very high temple for a decade. i will give you one quick example. there are a lot of nato and east european in new zealand, australia, other countries have sent special operations forces to afghanistan. they have been working over the last decade. they're not all doing the killing, capturing, hunting, the unilateral trade missions. many of them are partnered with these special provincial response companies. they are special police units in 17 of the provinces and there's o
mike is joining us from lafayette, louisiana, independent line. caller: good morning. you're talking about the need for special forces, working in conjunction with other nations' forces. are we running the risk of creating a u.n. special forces or creating a new world order special forces group? guest: well, they have many partners about the world now. this is one of the focal points of the new commander's efforts, to pull together regional alliances of special operators to help do some of...
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mike? >> bret, essentially what this came down to is after senate majority leader harry reid did not return a counter proposal to senate republican leader mitch mcconnell he got on the phone with vice president biden who is known for cutting deals and they worked through the night and senator mcconnell told colleagues he thought he had a deal with the vice president on the whole tax issue and then at the last minute the white house threw in the idea of putting off these automatic cuts set to start in 2013. the sequestration. the across-the-board cuts to defense spending, regardless of merit of program, just slashing each program and also domestic cuts as well. the republicans were thought to not like the defense cuts. democrats were thought not to like the domestic cuts and so they thought that they would be able to figure it out before it got to this point but here we are on new year's eve late into the evening and they had not cut a deal and so what senate republican leader mitch mcconnel
mike? >> bret, essentially what this came down to is after senate majority leader harry reid did not return a counter proposal to senate republican leader mitch mcconnell he got on the phone with vice president biden who is known for cutting deals and they worked through the night and senator mcconnell told colleagues he thought he had a deal with the vice president on the whole tax issue and then at the last minute the white house threw in the idea of putting off these automatic cuts set...
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wallace. >> i'm mike wallace. >> am i asking a tough question or a difficult question? nothing wrong with it, because you're in search of the truth, you hope. ♪ >> your name is john. >> yes, sir, boss. like to drink. >> welcome, you've got mail. >> keeping yourself fresh is a difficult thing, and finding things that are hard for you is something that you have to do or elts else you just repeat yourself. >> lift-off, america's first woman astronaut. ♪ >> that's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind. ♪ >> it's time for america's favorite dance party, american bandstand. >> dick clark coming to you live from times square in new york city. ♪ >> so long. >> so long. >> for now, dick clark, so long. ♪ >> we'll all be remembering dick clark as we ring in the new year next week. that is the broadcast for friday night. i'll see you here this weekend. from diane sawyer and all of us here at abc, have a good evening. goodnight. >>> tonight the upside of wet weather, reservoirs set a high water mark. >> we're in the sierra tonight. more storm watch coverage.
wallace. >> i'm mike wallace. >> am i asking a tough question or a difficult question? nothing wrong with it, because you're in search of the truth, you hope. ♪ >> your name is john. >> yes, sir, boss. like to drink. >> welcome, you've got mail. >> keeping yourself fresh is a difficult thing, and finding things that are hard for you is something that you have to do or elts else you just repeat yourself. >> lift-off, america's first woman astronaut....
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karen, is she still miked? >> yes, i am. got one more day. >> you think you are going to have big news to report tomorrow? >> somehow i don't think so. karen let me explain something to you. you want to say yes. there will be huge news. >> i'm going to be watching you for huge news about what happens in the white house tomorrow. >> coming up, there will be my prediction of who will win the senate seat in massachusetts. i am ready to pick a whipper in that race. tweet me your guess s. you ckacan tweet your guess s at who will win the race. the guys in the vatican, don't want other guys to be married. if they are gay. hat time of yea. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magi
karen, is she still miked? >> yes, i am. got one more day. >> you think you are going to have big news to report tomorrow? >> somehow i don't think so. karen let me explain something to you. you want to say yes. there will be huge news. >> i'm going to be watching you for huge news about what happens in the white house tomorrow. >> coming up, there will be my prediction of who will win the senate seat in massachusetts. i am ready to pick a whipper in that race....
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as does mike morrell. he says the film creates the strong impression that the enhanced interrogation techniques that were part of our former interrogation program were the key to finding bin laden. that impression is false. three members of the senate intelligence committee are also taking issue with the film suggestions that torture was an effective method of obtaining information. senator's john mccain, dianne feinstein and carl levin are asking the head of sony pictures to correct the record. we believe you have an obligation to state the role of torture in the hunt for osama bin laden is not based on the facts, but rather part of the film's fictional narrative. let's turn to the director of the aclu national security project. thank you so much for coming on the show. >> thank you for having me. >> the opening scene depicts the torture of a detainee. later the detainee supplies a piece of information during a meal with his interrogators. do you think the film misleads people on the hunt for bin laden, d
as does mike morrell. he says the film creates the strong impression that the enhanced interrogation techniques that were part of our former interrogation program were the key to finding bin laden. that impression is false. three members of the senate intelligence committee are also taking issue with the film suggestions that torture was an effective method of obtaining information. senator's john mccain, dianne feinstein and carl levin are asking the head of sony pictures to correct the...
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. >> ladies and gentlemen, governor mike hukabee. >> hello, everybody and welcome. delighted to have you here. what a great audience. welcome to "huckabee" from the fox news studios in new york city. as we wrap up 2012 and get ready for 2013, happy to have you with us. now tonight we are going to take a look ahead and look at some of the key issues that will impact us in the new year. first, let's look back at some of the most memorable quotes from last year. the president is going to be sworn in for his second term in a few weeks. so what will four more years of obama bring? he gave as you preview of what is to come in march. >> after the election i will have more flex ability. >> yikes. more flexibility? my goodness this president has exercised more flexibility than a yoga master so far in his first four years. i can't wait to imagine what even more flexibility might look like. i mean, we have twisted the constitution a hundred different ways. we have had executive orders in assisted of legislation. we somehow believe that we will have a strong economy if we conti
. >> ladies and gentlemen, governor mike hukabee. >> hello, everybody and welcome. delighted to have you here. what a great audience. welcome to "huckabee" from the fox news studios in new york city. as we wrap up 2012 and get ready for 2013, happy to have you with us. now tonight we are going to take a look ahead and look at some of the key issues that will impact us in the new year. first, let's look back at some of the most memorable quotes from last year. the president...
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. >>> senator mike crapo was arrested over the weekend. he ran a red light, then failed several sobriety tests. officers say he was cooperative and released on a boon. he quickly released a statement apologizing for the incident. >>> coming up for you, the tough road to the pentagon. former senator chuck hagel facing cry sim. and doubt from both sides of the aisle. >> i'd have to study his report. i'm not going to comment until the president make a nomination. >>> plus we're following breaking news. two firefighters shot to death, as they respond to a fire. the latest of that, coming up. when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. [ male announcer ] glucerna hunger smart. a smart way to help manage hunger and diabetes. >>> i don't think he's going to get many republican votes. i like chuck, but his positions -- i didn't quite frankly know all of them -- are really out of
. >>> senator mike crapo was arrested over the weekend. he ran a red light, then failed several sobriety tests. officers say he was cooperative and released on a boon. he quickly released a statement apologizing for the incident. >>> coming up for you, the tough road to the pentagon. former senator chuck hagel facing cry sim. and doubt from both sides of the aisle. >> i'd have to study his report. i'm not going to comment until the president make a nomination....
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maybe there's something in the water in massachusetts because, you know, mike dukakis ran a terrible campaign as well. >> ooh. you're going to hear from folks from massachusetts on that one. >> that's fine. that's all right. that's okay. but on the other hand, i don't believe that mitt romney had no desire to run. this is a man who had been running for six years. this is a man who buried all of his opponents in an avalanche of negative ads in order to win. this is a guy who went to the right of everybody on that -- on those debate stages. just for the sole purpose of winning. >> to that point, i think jonathan raises a good issue. i don't think he ran the campaign he wanted to or envisioned himself to run when he started out. because he did have to go so far to the right and twist himself into a pretzel. >> then that's malpractice on many fronts. if you look at what john mccain had to do, he had to do the same thing. and the thing we know between the time mccain ran to win we went to 2007 or 2012 election, the conservative party got more conservative. so it was not so likely that you
maybe there's something in the water in massachusetts because, you know, mike dukakis ran a terrible campaign as well. >> ooh. you're going to hear from folks from massachusetts on that one. >> that's fine. that's all right. that's okay. but on the other hand, i don't believe that mitt romney had no desire to run. this is a man who had been running for six years. this is a man who buried all of his opponents in an avalanche of negative ads in order to win. this is a guy who went to...
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and finally, the leader of our team is a guy named mike lynch who has molded us into a great operation, and he didn't put his name in here characteristically, but he deserves a huge amount of thanks. of course, my colleague, senator gillibrand, lautenberg, menendez and their teams were essential. we worked as sort of a seamless web, and i look forward to working with them, too, on the implementation of this package. i want to thank senator inouye. when he was ill, he continued to meet with senators gillibrand, menendez, lautenberg and myself, and we knew how much he cared, and i know he's looking down as i think senator mikulski said and he's smiling at the good work that we did in a bipartisan way to get this bill passed. of course, i want to thank senator mikulski. she is -- this was the first bill she managed and let it be a metaphor for all of her bills. senator gillibrand and i have just labeled her the engineer. she led that train down the track speedily, without flaw but carefully and was a great leader. senator landrieu, the chair of the homeland security subcommittee, was incr
and finally, the leader of our team is a guy named mike lynch who has molded us into a great operation, and he didn't put his name in here characteristically, but he deserves a huge amount of thanks. of course, my colleague, senator gillibrand, lautenberg, menendez and their teams were essential. we worked as sort of a seamless web, and i look forward to working with them, too, on the implementation of this package. i want to thank senator inouye. when he was ill, he continued to meet with...
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. >> nbc news senior political editor mike murray also digging this joining me live. president obama using the bully pulpit of his office to put pressure on congress. "meet the press" tomorrow and take a listen to part of what he said yesterday afternoon. take a listen. >> if an agreement isn't reached in time between senator reid and senator mcconnell, then i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor a basic package for an up or down vote. >> up or down vote. what kind of pressure would that put on members of congress? >> this is all about the blame game, craig. it takes 60 votes to do almost anything in the u.s. senate. for president obama calling for an up or down vote, for the senate which rarely happens he would be saying if any republican or groups of republicans ends up blocking the legislation, they would be the ones who would be blamed for going over the fiscal cliff and luke russert just outlined something else, too, if you even get 60 votes that then goes to the house the question is does house speaker john boehner and republicans allow that to come to t
. >> nbc news senior political editor mike murray also digging this joining me live. president obama using the bully pulpit of his office to put pressure on congress. "meet the press" tomorrow and take a listen to part of what he said yesterday afternoon. take a listen. >> if an agreement isn't reached in time between senator reid and senator mcconnell, then i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor a basic package for an up or down vote. >> up or down vote....
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joining us now with the latest on the negotiations is chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel. >> the talks have shifted from the top two senators negotiating to senate republican leader mitch mcconnell trying to strike a deal with joe abide den. the senate majority leader left the capital shortly after making this comment about republicans trying to change the way inflation is measured on entitlement. >> i was really gratified to hear republicans taking their demand for social security benefit cuts off the table. truth is they should have never been on the table to begin with. they are still significant distance between twot sides and negotiations continue. still time left to reach an agreement and we can continue the negotiations. >> the senate is due to return tomorrow morning at 11:00 a.m. republican negotiator mitch mcconnell said he was concerned about a lack of urgency on the side of democrats. >> willing to work with whoever, whoever can help. there is no single issue that remains an impossible sticking point. the sticking point appears to be a willingness, an interest
joining us now with the latest on the negotiations is chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel. >> the talks have shifted from the top two senators negotiating to senate republican leader mitch mcconnell trying to strike a deal with joe abide den. the senate majority leader left the capital shortly after making this comment about republicans trying to change the way inflation is measured on entitlement. >> i was really gratified to hear republicans taking their demand for...
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mike viqueira with more from capitol hill. mike. >> milissa, very interesting evening to say the least. so much activity. the vice president arriving on capitol hill, 9:15 eastern time. i guess about 2 1/2 hours ago. huddled with senate democrats, essentially selling them on the deal that he has struck with the republican leader, mitch mcconnell. an hour and a half later, the senator started to emerge, positive, optimistic signses from leading democrats in the senate. including chuck schumer, who too optimistically said we would have a vote before tonight or raise the possibility in the senate, we're only 2 2 0 minutes away, but the goal is to vote in the senate on the deal they have come up with. and schumer and many other senators have eamericai emerged anticipate having many democrat votes at all. many coming outside of their own meeting anticipate that they are sort of going to hold their nose and vote for this milissa, something in this bill for everyone to hate. and the question remains now, assuming sometime before dawn
mike viqueira with more from capitol hill. mike. >> milissa, very interesting evening to say the least. so much activity. the vice president arriving on capitol hill, 9:15 eastern time. i guess about 2 1/2 hours ago. huddled with senate democrats, essentially selling them on the deal that he has struck with the republican leader, mitch mcconnell. an hour and a half later, the senator started to emerge, positive, optimistic signses from leading democrats in the senate. including chuck...
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mike, jessica back to you. >>> thank you. president obama and congress got back to work yesterday trying to find some sort of a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. there were signs of both hope and discouragement as both sides agreed the talk. >> back to work is relative when you call it work and what seems top a pattern both sides once again blaming each other for the stalemate. tara mergener has more from capitol hill. >> reporter: business owner don says he's already feeling the impact. >> a lot of our customers are holding back. they're apprehensive. they're not committing to projects, they're waiting to see what's going to happen with the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: and hope is fading that congress can get a deal done before tax hikes and spending cuts kick in january 1st. >> i am not optimistic. >> reporter: even congressional leaders are cemental. >> the american people have a right to be very upset with this congress. >> reporter: president obama invited pelosi, john boehner and harry reid to the white house this afternoon
mike, jessica back to you. >>> thank you. president obama and congress got back to work yesterday trying to find some sort of a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. there were signs of both hope and discouragement as both sides agreed the talk. >> back to work is relative when you call it work and what seems top a pattern both sides once again blaming each other for the stalemate. tara mergener has more from capitol hill. >> reporter: business owner don says he's already feeling...
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police in washington say republican mike crepo was pulled over after running a red light sunday. he failed several sobriety tests, taken to jail and released on bond. he's expected in court in january. he says he takes total responsibility. >>> another veteran on capitol hill was laid to rest in his home state of hawaii. in attendance, president obama. a 19 cannon salute was fired at the senator's funeral, which took place in honolulu. the president and first lady, who are in hawaii on vacation right now, were among the mourners at the national memorial center. he died last week at the age of 88. >>> only one week to go, and there's still no deal preventing the economy from going over the fiscal cliff. members of congress are pointing fingers over who is to blame for the lack of progress to prevent tax hikes and spending cuts. connecticut's independent senator joe lieberman expects congress to work right up to the deadline. but he's not even sure that's going to be enough. >> it's the first time i feel it's more likely we will go over the cliff than not, and if we allow that to h
police in washington say republican mike crepo was pulled over after running a red light sunday. he failed several sobriety tests, taken to jail and released on bond. he's expected in court in january. he says he takes total responsibility. >>> another veteran on capitol hill was laid to rest in his home state of hawaii. in attendance, president obama. a 19 cannon salute was fired at the senator's funeral, which took place in honolulu. the president and first lady, who are in hawaii on...
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they will be without their coach that turned the program around, mike mcintyre. mcintyre less san jose state for colorado. the military goal is in washington d.c. a kickoff set noon. >> public safety officials in east palo alto say that emerges repairs to a levee that separated dozens of homes from the san francisco-quito creek are holding up. the creek or float on sunday night causing mandatory evacuations for seven homes. at least one home was damaged to the point of being uninhabitable. no further work has been scheduled. but the city continues to keep a close eye on the levee. >> all the rain over christmas-a down the southbound side of the upper great highway from lincoln avenue to slow boulevard. a spokesperson at the centers is the department of public works say that the rose flood because the drains cannot handle all the water, especially during a powerful storm. drivers are being forced to take the lower great highway route. the northbound side is still open. officials say that highway close about 60 times a year. it is not known when the southbound side
they will be without their coach that turned the program around, mike mcintyre. mcintyre less san jose state for colorado. the military goal is in washington d.c. a kickoff set noon. >> public safety officials in east palo alto say that emerges repairs to a levee that separated dozens of homes from the san francisco-quito creek are holding up. the creek or float on sunday night causing mandatory evacuations for seven homes. at least one home was damaged to the point of being...
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. >> that would bring us to what our mike viqueira calls the inertia scenario where they decide the best thing is to go over the fiscal cliff. the democrats for some of them from their perspective it is not a bad thing because they think they have the upper hand in public opinion and also that it basically assures the elimination of bush tax cuts. on the republican side it does the same thing but then they can say, i didn't vote for a tax cut. un, they just expired. is there -- are there enough people there who really are willing to hold firm and let us go over the cliff? >> yes. i think clearly there are. one sign that people are trying to prepare the way for americans not to take it so seriously, after months of talking about the catastrophic consequences of going over the fiscal cliff, you see people now at the white house, on the hill, in both parties talking about it as a slope, not a cliff. that there will be a deal early in the new year if not one by new year's eve. so i think clearly both sides think it is now likely that we'll go over the cliff and that they want to argue it's n
. >> that would bring us to what our mike viqueira calls the inertia scenario where they decide the best thing is to go over the fiscal cliff. the democrats for some of them from their perspective it is not a bad thing because they think they have the upper hand in public opinion and also that it basically assures the elimination of bush tax cuts. on the republican side it does the same thing but then they can say, i didn't vote for a tax cut. un, they just expired. is there -- are there...